Fulano's megadrum

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Fulano's megadrum

Postby Fulano » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:57 am

Hi, this post is not intended to be a kind of tutorial, but a description and explanation on how I built my megadrum. I have no knowledge about electronics, so I have done things just looking for information in this forum.

I would like to collect here some information posted in other threads wich was very useful when I encountered some problems.

As I said before, my knowledge about electronics is reduced to soldering, so I decided to order the kit from Synthex.

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Here you can see a picture of all the components I used to build the megadrum.

I started soldering the smaller components: resistors, capacitors, diodes, etc.

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Then I added the sockets for the ICs and connectors.

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I had to make sure that I soldered all the resistors in the correct place. The pcb by Synthex is already marked with the correct value, however I had to use an online resistors calculator to double check the colors and values. By doing this I had no mistakes done.

It is very useful to follow the pictures provided by Synthex, so you know exactly where the components are placed:

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When I had the pcb finished, I continued with the rest of components.

For the keyboard I followed the schematics provided.

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For the lcd I had to build first the cable. Synthex provided the connector and I used an old ide cable, I cut a strip of sixteen cables and then they were soldered on the lcd. Just identify pin 1 on your lcd and connector, and the rest are in order. When I first plugged the megadrum my computer dectected it properly, the midi led flashed. However, the screen showed nothing. Then I discovered the use of the trimpot. We can adjust contrast with this trimpot. I read in another thread that this trimpot must be truned clockwise at leas 30 times, and you mus hear a click. I did it, at least 50 times and I heard no click. Then I decided to turn it the other way. And it worked. All the characters were shown correctly, however there seemed to be a problem with the backlight, it was very subdued. Synthex told me to replace the 470 ohms resistor for one of 100 or less value. I did it and the back light increased more.

One of the components was a jumper. I had no idea of its use. Well, the thing is that you have three options:
- Using the jumper in USB Power Switch. By doing this anytime you plug the usb connector the megadrum turns on.
- Using the jumper in Alim Ext Jumper. By doing this you need another source for power.
- Not using the jumper and adding a switch to the USB Power Switch. I have this done. You have a switch which turns on and off the module when connected to your computer via usb.
Please, note that you can't use two jumpers at the same time, one in USB Power Switch and other in USB Power Switch!

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Although you have all the information in this forum concerning the building of the megadrum, it isn't organized correctly, so you have to read and re-read every thread to find what you are looking for. As a result, you miss some facts. For instance, I thought that the usb connection was the source for power and for future updates, and that we needed the midi connectors for the "sounds". However, I discovered soon that we send them via usb, so we don't need midi connectors at all. Fortunately, I discovered beforehand that we don't need the ISP and ICSP cables, so I haven't added them.

Finally, the worst part of the job was to identify and solder all the different cables to the jacks. I used again an old ide cable. Pins 1,2, 21, 22, 39,40 are ground, so I soldered all the sleeves to them. Then you have to follow the pinouts provided by Synthex, taking into account that when it says Bow, we solder to the tip, and Edge to the ring:

7 - Hihat Bow --- Tip
8 - Hihat Edge --- Ring
9 - Snare Head --- Tip
10 - Snare Rim --- Ring
and so on

For the pedal jack is exactly the same.

3 - Power source for Hihat controller --- Tip
4 - Hihat controller input --- Ring

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And finally, I used the box of a TDT receiver I had at home. The final look isn't very professional but the thing is that it works. As you can see I have to cover the logo by Sanyo :lol:

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I hope you find this thread useful.
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Re: Fulano's megadrum

Postby Synthex » Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:55 pm

Very good thread !!! :)
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Re: Fulano's megadrum

Postby efbe » Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:34 pm

Fulano,

I think one of the MIDI connectors is not "grounded"

EFBE
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Re: Fulano's megadrum

Postby Fulano » Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:31 pm

Very good thread !!! :)


Thanks Synthex. But, you and Dimitri did the worst part!

I think one of the MIDI connectors is not "grounded"

EFBE


I followed the schematics, and it is not grounded. As you can see in one of the pictures, the midi in has green and yellow cables, and the midi through red orange and brown. Don't ask me why it isn't grounded :lol: , I simply followed Synthex pinouts:

MIDI IN OUT Connector :

1 - MIDI OUT + (pin 4)
2 - MIDI OUT - (pin 5)
3 - MIDI OUT GND (pin 2)
4 - MIDI IN + (pin 4)
5 - MIDI IN - (pin 5)
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Re: Fulano's megadrum

Postby efbe » Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:12 pm

Fulano wrote:
Very good thread !!! :)


Thanks Synthex. But, you and Dimitri did the worst part!

I think one of the MIDI connectors is not "grounded"

EFBE


I followed the schematics, and it is not grounded. As you can see in one of the pictures, the midi in has green and yellow cables, and the midi through red orange and brown. Don't ask me why it isn't grounded :lol: , I simply followed Synthex pinouts:

MIDI IN OUT Connector :

1 - MIDI OUT + (pin 4)
2 - MIDI OUT - (pin 5)
3 - MIDI OUT GND (pin 2)
4 - MIDI IN + (pin 4)
5 - MIDI IN - (pin 5)


OK that the board connector,

But You should connect both the pin's 2, on the on the chassis DIN connectors.

EFBE
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Re: Fulano's megadrum

Postby dmitri » Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:29 pm

efbe wrote:
Fulano wrote:
Very good thread !!! :)


Thanks Synthex. But, you and Dimitri did the worst part!

I think one of the MIDI connectors is not "grounded"

EFBE


I followed the schematics, and it is not grounded. As you can see in one of the pictures, the midi in has green and yellow cables, and the midi through red orange and brown. Don't ask me why it isn't grounded :lol: , I simply followed Synthex pinouts:

MIDI IN OUT Connector :

1 - MIDI OUT + (pin 4)
2 - MIDI OUT - (pin 5)
3 - MIDI OUT GND (pin 2)
4 - MIDI IN + (pin 4)
5 - MIDI IN - (pin 5)


OK that the board connector,

But You should connect both the pin's 2, on the on the chassis DIN connectors.

EFBE

This is wrong. Pin 2 on MIDI IN must NOT be connected to ground. This is to make interconnected MIDI devices electrically isolated.

On the thread itself. Fulano, many thanks for this thorough description of your build! I'm making the thread sticky.
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Re: Fulano's megadrum

Postby Fulano » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:34 pm

On the thread itself. Fulano, many thanks for this thorough description of your build! I'm making the thread sticky.


Thanks a lot.

By the way, now that I have my megadrum built, the next step is building the e-drums, converting an acoustic set. I'm planning to post other threads related to this building. Could you add a subforum named "DIY" or whatever, so we can post there? or we can simply add the threads here?

And now I realise that I forgot to include the pricing of my megadrum. So, here it is:

Ordered to Synthex
All In One PCB v2.7 double green layer = 10 euros
Programmed Atmega32 16PU (or Programmed Atmega644 20PU) = 8 euros
Programmed 18F2550 = 6 euros
6N138 = 1 euro
4x 74HC4851 = 6 euros
All other components = 33 euros :
- Resistors (metal 1/4 watt) : 1* 100, 4* 220, 1* 470, 2* 1k, 8* 4.7k, 1* 6.2k, 1* 10k, 4* 47k, 1* 10k trimpot
- Capacitors : 2* 15pF, 2* 22pF, 3* 100nF, 2* 220nF, 2* 470nF, 3* 47uF, 1* 100uF
- Inductors : 1* 1mH
- Diodes : 3* 1N4148
- Crystals : 1* 20MHz, 1* 12MHz
- ICs : 1* 7805
- ICs Sockets : 1* 8 pin, 4* 16 pin, 1* 28 pin, 1* 40 pin
- Connectors HE-14 male : 3* 2 pin, 1* 4 pin, 3* 5 pin, 1* 6 pin
- Connectors HE-14 female KK type pre-wired : 2* 2 pin, 1* 4 pin, 3* 5 pin, 1* 6 pin
- Connectors HE-10 male : 1* 2x8 pin, 1* 2x20 pin
- Connectors HE-10 female : 1* 2x8 pin, 1* 2x20 pin
- Connector USB : USB Socket type B
- Miscellaneous : 1* blue LED 5mm, 4* push buttons
- LCD screen 10 euros
Shipping cost 14 euros

Ordered to Farnell

2 din5 sockets (midi) - 1.58 euros
16 stereo female jacks - 11.36
1 mono female jack - 0.59

(I ordered this with other items for the pads, so lets say the shipping is 4 euros)

IDE cables - free
Box - free
Some screws - free

If I'm not wrong the total cost is: 105,53 euros
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Re: Fulano's megadrum

Postby japi » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:03 am

Fulano where are you from? Your nickname is a Spanish word I think. I'm from Argentina
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Re: Fulano's megadrum

Postby Fulano » Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:08 am

Fulano where are you from? Your nickname is a Spanish word I think. I'm from Argentina


Hi Japi. You are right. I'm from Spain.
Tengo la impresión de que somos unos cuantos los que hablamos español en este foro :lol:
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Re: Fulano's megadrum

Postby elrules » Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:37 pm

And the people here that is from Spain, are also a member of batacas.com ? I am
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